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		<title>By: Daniel Cheah</title>
		<link>http://inspiredworlds.com/2009/09/01/the-cost-of-free/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Cheah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember how we were talking last night about how Chinese websites are dominating their Western counterparts in China?


Check out this article on FT.com... 

Its an interesting line in with your blogpost re news content too...

Traffic for China&#039;s social networking sites come thru via either games or NEWS CONTENT (ie. side product). Western users focus solely on social networking.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cc852718-9724-11de-83c5-00144feabdc0.html


For those who say, &quot;Who cares about China?&quot;. 

I think 340 million online users (and rapidly growing..!!) is reason enough to care.

Wish I could read Chinese..!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember how we were talking last night about how Chinese websites are dominating their Western counterparts in China?</p>
<p>Check out this article on FT.com&#8230; </p>
<p>Its an interesting line in with your blogpost re news content too&#8230;</p>
<p>Traffic for China&#8217;s social networking sites come thru via either games or NEWS CONTENT (ie. side product). Western users focus solely on social networking.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cc852718-9724-11de-83c5-00144feabdc0.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cc852718-9724-11de-83c5-00144feabdc0.html</a></p>
<p>For those who say, &#8220;Who cares about China?&#8221;. </p>
<p>I think 340 million online users (and rapidly growing..!!) is reason enough to care.</p>
<p>Wish I could read Chinese..!</p>
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		<title>By: inspiredworlds</title>
		<link>http://inspiredworlds.com/2009/09/01/the-cost-of-free/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>inspiredworlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out what Duncan Riley and a guy from CBS interactive said today at the future of influence summit. they believe that the news content pay wall will be a deathknell for the industry. because the most newsworthy articles are the ones that are shared and people want to talk about. 

this will just drive them elsewhere.

http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=857293</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out what Duncan Riley and a guy from CBS interactive said today at the future of influence summit. they believe that the news content pay wall will be a deathknell for the industry. because the most newsworthy articles are the ones that are shared and people want to talk about. </p>
<p>this will just drive them elsewhere.</p>
<p><a href="http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=857293" rel="nofollow">http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=857293</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Cheah</title>
		<link>http://inspiredworlds.com/2009/09/01/the-cost-of-free/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Cheah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@inspiredworlds Yah, I&#039;m seeing interesting parallels between the news &amp; music industry in their battle against &quot;free&quot;.

The music industry started the war in ol&#039; days (in Net terms) of Napster and have adapted to a certain extent. Its still pretty schizophrenic though.

On one hand, you have new talent being unearthed on Myspace and Youtube. Whilst on the other, you have major record labels suing regular folk for downloading music illegally.

I think the news content industry will follow a similar path. Some will adopt &quot;FORTRESS AMERICA&quot; style defence whilst others will be more liberal and innovative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@inspiredworlds Yah, I&#8217;m seeing interesting parallels between the news &amp; music industry in their battle against &#8220;free&#8221;.</p>
<p>The music industry started the war in ol&#8217; days (in Net terms) of Napster and have adapted to a certain extent. Its still pretty schizophrenic though.</p>
<p>On one hand, you have new talent being unearthed on Myspace and Youtube. Whilst on the other, you have major record labels suing regular folk for downloading music illegally.</p>
<p>I think the news content industry will follow a similar path. Some will adopt &#8220;FORTRESS AMERICA&#8221; style defence whilst others will be more liberal and innovative.</p>
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		<title>By: inspiredworlds</title>
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		<dc:creator>inspiredworlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@james you make a good point. the news industry has different overheads. the cost structure is different - more staff overheads. i just considered whether some of the online business models for services could be used for online news content.

I also like the idea of CPM basis. You could have a baseline of remuneration (fixed) and also a performance fee on top. 

@ daniel yes, very legitimate concerns re journalistic integrity. How do we value journalism and news readership? If its performance based does it cheapen the service? 

With wholesalers of content, I would consider that aggregation sites are presumably this - like Huffington Post, All top, Feed.ly, Google News. Someone will develop a pay model around this - delivering customised content to you on demand.  

I think that the news industry (and the music industry) will be very interesting in the next few years, as they battle / harness the power of free and develop new business models to support their content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@james you make a good point. the news industry has different overheads. the cost structure is different &#8211; more staff overheads. i just considered whether some of the online business models for services could be used for online news content.</p>
<p>I also like the idea of CPM basis. You could have a baseline of remuneration (fixed) and also a performance fee on top. </p>
<p>@ daniel yes, very legitimate concerns re journalistic integrity. How do we value journalism and news readership? If its performance based does it cheapen the service? </p>
<p>With wholesalers of content, I would consider that aggregation sites are presumably this &#8211; like Huffington Post, All top, Feed.ly, Google News. Someone will develop a pay model around this &#8211; delivering customised content to you on demand.  </p>
<p>I think that the news industry (and the music industry) will be very interesting in the next few years, as they battle / harness the power of free and develop new business models to support their content.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Cheah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Cheah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, with all these news sites moving to a pay-content system....

What&#039;s stopping someone from subscribing for the service with say, news.com.au and then distributing it to the masses for free or a fee?

They will effectively act as &quot;wholesalers&quot; of news content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, with all these news sites moving to a pay-content system&#8230;.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s stopping someone from subscribing for the service with say, news.com.au and then distributing it to the masses for free or a fee?</p>
<p>They will effectively act as &#8220;wholesalers&#8221; of news content.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Cheah</title>
		<link>http://inspiredworlds.com/2009/09/01/the-cost-of-free/comment-page-1/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Cheah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To James 

I like the idea of performance based journalism. Interesting concept!

But, I think that some journos will argue that it may degrade the quality and integrity of the news articles out there.

ie. Why post an investigative in-depth article into the intricacies of the war in Iraq when a funny article about some Youtube movie will get more clicks and eyeballs?

The solution is probably to have defined audience target (for remuneration) for each &quot;type&quot; of journalist. 

For example, entertainment (gossip) journos may have to hit higher audience targets than say, a specialised tax news journalist.

I&#039;m not a journo so there will be others that will flame on about journalistic integrity, blah blah blah...

I&#039;m looking at it from the finance point of view of measuring the performance-based remuneration. (^_^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To James </p>
<p>I like the idea of performance based journalism. Interesting concept!</p>
<p>But, I think that some journos will argue that it may degrade the quality and integrity of the news articles out there.</p>
<p>ie. Why post an investigative in-depth article into the intricacies of the war in Iraq when a funny article about some Youtube movie will get more clicks and eyeballs?</p>
<p>The solution is probably to have defined audience target (for remuneration) for each &#8220;type&#8221; of journalist. </p>
<p>For example, entertainment (gossip) journos may have to hit higher audience targets than say, a specialised tax news journalist.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a journo so there will be others that will flame on about journalistic integrity, blah blah blah&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at it from the finance point of view of measuring the performance-based remuneration. (^_^)</p>
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		<title>By: James Duthie</title>
		<link>http://inspiredworlds.com/2009/09/01/the-cost-of-free/comment-page-1/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>James Duthie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Internet screwed up everything because it broke down the fundamentals of economics - supply and demand. The geographic barriers to competition were eliminated and now there is an infinite over-supply of everything. And there is always someone who&#039;ll do it cheaper. So if you want to make money, you need to be damn good at what you do. And hope that Google doesn&#039;t enter your industry! :)

Not sure you&#039;re comparing apples between the news industry and a tech start-up such as Yammer or Huddle. The greatest problem for the news industry is that they are people driven. News cannot be produced without journalists. People create news, and the people cost is now exceeding their advertising revenue. A tech start-up typically has minimal overheads, typically relying upon a small team of developers to maintain the technology. 

Perhaps the answer is to link journalist remuneration to performance. Pay journalists based on eyeballs generated by their work. Then there would a clear incentive to produce high quality content &amp; develop a clear understanding of reader needs. With so many free content producers, journalists need to deliver extraordinarily high quality content to justify payment.

I&#039;ll close with this quote from Seth which I love, and is highly relevant to the news industry:

&quot;Free is creating lots of attention, but marketers haven&#039;t gotten smart enough to do something profitable with that attention.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Internet screwed up everything because it broke down the fundamentals of economics &#8211; supply and demand. The geographic barriers to competition were eliminated and now there is an infinite over-supply of everything. And there is always someone who&#8217;ll do it cheaper. So if you want to make money, you need to be damn good at what you do. And hope that Google doesn&#8217;t enter your industry! <img src='http://inspiredworlds.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Not sure you&#8217;re comparing apples between the news industry and a tech start-up such as Yammer or Huddle. The greatest problem for the news industry is that they are people driven. News cannot be produced without journalists. People create news, and the people cost is now exceeding their advertising revenue. A tech start-up typically has minimal overheads, typically relying upon a small team of developers to maintain the technology. </p>
<p>Perhaps the answer is to link journalist remuneration to performance. Pay journalists based on eyeballs generated by their work. Then there would a clear incentive to produce high quality content &amp; develop a clear understanding of reader needs. With so many free content producers, journalists need to deliver extraordinarily high quality content to justify payment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll close with this quote from Seth which I love, and is highly relevant to the news industry:</p>
<p>&#8220;Free is creating lots of attention, but marketers haven&#8217;t gotten smart enough to do something profitable with that attention.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nextbrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextbrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Matt. Or should I say essay? You make some really great points we are seeing with new business models develop a free killer service Someone can&#039;t live without, and subsidize it with ads/commercial data/ additional access or benifits etc. Which is interesting as I remember mcdonalds marketing case study about turning customers around in 8 minutes, how times change.

Give it two years and there will be a model in place around quality news content online possibly  a subscription model tied in with a cross Chanel access - I see mobile a key player with data portability and easy billing access. Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Matt. Or should I say essay? You make some really great points we are seeing with new business models develop a free killer service Someone can&#8217;t live without, and subsidize it with ads/commercial data/ additional access or benifits etc. Which is interesting as I remember mcdonalds marketing case study about turning customers around in 8 minutes, how times change.</p>
<p>Give it two years and there will be a model in place around quality news content online possibly  a subscription model tied in with a cross Chanel access &#8211; I see mobile a key player with data portability and easy billing access. Great post!</p>
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